Before Stonewall: Roger's Interview Clip 1 of 4
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Roger's hilarious interview recalls his Uncle Sid, who 'never married' and his youthful adventures as a budding entrepreneur in the cinemas of Norwich.
Roger recalls his earliest 'gay' memories, in this extract, mentioning his understanding and perceptive grandmother, Rose, who identified her grandson's gayness early on. He also describes his great-uncle Sid as a 'raving queen' and a lot of fun, who once worked as a butler in a nearby stately home.
He tells the story of how Sid, sitting on some steps in Swaffham, was asked by a passing motorist to 'examine his gearstick'. The driver was the son of local gentry and Sid, who became the driver's long-term lover, went to work at the family's stately home, first as a footman and then as a butler. Granny Rose told Roger's family that he would never marry because he was like Sid - and this was accepted by everyone.
During a dreary sermon, Roger, aged about 14, says he set out to know more about his sexuality by reading all about the subject, though he couldn't access those books in the 'restricted section' of the library. He also discovered cinema, enjoying Flash Gordon and Westerns, but even more exciting was the money he earned at the cinema allowing older men to put their hands into his pockets for a feel, charging half-a-crown for one hand and five shillings for two.
By the time he was 15, Roger had £45 stuffed under his mattress, with his puzzled mum remarking that her son always seemed to have money even though he didn't have a paper round. Some of his 'punters' even took him to London for overnight stays at the Regent and Strand Palace Hotels, and at 16, Roger began his first serious 'affair'. Now aged 66, Roger says that he's never been out of an 'affair' since, apart from his RAF days and then the only difference was that his 'lovers' climaxed faster.
Roger was born in Norwich in 1937. Evacuated to Swaffham, also in Norfolk, he recalls seeing a lot of bomb damage and explosions of V1 terror weapons. He also remembers having wonderful parents and a very understanding grandmother, Rose, and an entertaining great-uncle Sid.
Roger was called up for National Service and chose to go into the RAF, where he trained as a nurse, eventually specialising in psychiatric nursing once he left the RAF. Roger was partnered to Noel for 41 years, until the latter's death two years before this interview for GLAM.
Roger recalls some ribald tales of the gay life in both Norfolk and London and as well as describing some fascinating characters, like Black Anna, who owned a pub in Norwich until the mid-1970s. Roger also describes how he and Noel became deeply involved in the city's high-Anglican church, St John the Baptist church, at Timber Hill.