Before Stonewall: Dave's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Screen Archive South East at the University of Brighton collects, preserves, catalogues and provides public access to its collection of films and magic lantern slides. The collection charts the rise of screen culture in the region and the nation and captures many aspects of life, work and creativity in the South East from the late 19th century to the present day. It is available for research, screenings, creative re-use and commercial access.

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David recalls an episode of an Army encounter that ended in disaster. But after the purgatory which followed, he is today, 'a happy homo'.

In this extract, David, by then a senior NCO, recalls making an awkward situation worse while he was training young Army recruits.

Despite imposing a strict rule on himself, not to 'step-over-the-line' and have intimate relations with young soldiers, he found himself, on a trip to an Army Tennis Tournament, with a squad of recruits and having to 'bunk down' with them rather than sleeping in his own accommodation, to which he was entitled, since none was available.

A good-looking recruit called Alex, standing in David's alcove, which contained two beds, was ordered out, as a junior NCO had priority. Despite this, and David's own rule, he later 'betrayed his trust' and had a fantastic sexual relationship with Alex, who, to David's surprise, was much more experienced than himself, even though Alex was ten years younger.

Their relationship continued for a while and David now believes that Alex was the catalyst for him realising that his closeted life could not continue as it had for the 12 lonely years he'd already spent in the Army.

However, when David later chatted up another recruit, his approach was reported. Arrested by the Military Police, David was sent to see an Army psychiatrist, a full Colonel, who insisted that David, who knew otherwise, wasn't actually gay and recommended him for a discharge.

Never a happy homosexual for the entire 12 years of his life in the Army, things turned out for the better when David met his partner, Martin. Within a week of meeting in 1976, they set up home together and David today feels that without Martin in his life, he would have died long ago. It might have taken a while, but after thirty years David can say that he's now a 'happy homosexual'.

David was born in Birmingham in 1948. His father worked in the aircraft industry and his mum was a housewife. David grew up with two sisters and a brother and they enjoyed a happy childhood.

On holiday in Yorkshire, when David was seven, he was sexually assaulted by a Station Master, but was too scared to tell his family about it. At the same time, he began to realise that he was attracted to other boys and had numerous sexual contacts with other boys at school.

Leaving school without any academic qualifications, David joined the Army at 16, becoming a bandsman playing the clarinet as well as serving in Germany and Northern Ireland. He had a number of covert sexual encounters during his army career, but it was when, as he admits, that he failed to follow his own rules of propriety and 'betrayed his trust', that David, who by then was a senior NCO, was reported, court-martialled and discharged from the army in 1973.

On leaving the Army, David was now free to pursue an openly gay life and met his life partner, Martin, in 1976. They have been together for over 30 years, and they now live in Luxembourg.


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GLAM Before Stonewall: LGBT Oral History Project

This fascinating and important collection, recorded onto videotape, contains the testimonies, in the form of interviews, from individuals of varying ages, backgrounds and ethnicities from across the LGBT community.
‘Before Stonewall: An Oral History of the Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender Community’ was a Heritage Lottery Funded project organised in 2003 by a Brighton-based organisation 'Gay and Lesbian Arts and Media', otherwise known as GLAM. The project sought to record for posterity the first-hand recollections of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people from across the United Kingdom and beyond, of a time before the events in New York’s Greenwich Village which culminated in the Stonewall Riots of 1969. This was a time which was very different, and in many respects more oppressive for homosexual and transgender people, than the one we’re familiar with today. This fascinating and important collection, recorded onto videotape, contains the testimonies, in the form of interviews, of over one-hundred individuals of varying ages, backgrounds and ethnicities from across the LGBT community. With recollections that reach back as far as the 1920s, what all of the interviews describe and reveal is the whole gamut of human experience, from the deeply tragic to the exhilaratingly joyous - all from the perspectives of a section of society that has often been considered to be ‘different from the others’. Journalist Charlotte Cooper, who worked for the gay press at the time, co-ordinated the project’s video-recording with volunteers and conducted many of the interviews herself. Charlotte describes her time on the project as both a revelatory and profoundly moving experience. Screen Archive South East has made available from across this collection a total of eighty four extracts from thirty individual interviews. Together they give an insightful and first-hand account of what life was like for LGBT people, both in the United Kingdom and abroad, and in both the years before Stonewall and after.

75 videos in this collection

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Before Stonewall Summary: Charlotte Cooper Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall Summary: Charlotte Cooper Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall Summary: Charlotte Cooper Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall Summary: Charlotte Cooper Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jenny's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Jenny's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Jenny's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Eddie's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Eddie's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Eddie's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Chris's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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Before Stonewall: Peter's Interview Clip 1 of 2

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Before Stonewall: Peter's Interview Clip 2 of 2

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Before Stonewall: Anthea's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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Before Stonewall: Geoff's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Geoff's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Geoff's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Rex's Interview Clip 2 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Rex's Interview Clip 3 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Rex's Interview Clip 4 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Rex's Interview Clip 5 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Rex's Interview Clip 6 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Roger's Interview Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Roger's Interview Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Roger's Interview Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Roger's Interview Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jane H's Interview Clip 1 of 5

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Before Stonewall: Jane H's Interview Clip 2 of 5

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Before Stonewall: Jane H's Interview Clip 4 of 5

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Before Stonewall: Jane H's Interview Clip 5 of 5

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Before Stonewall: Jacky's Interview Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jacky's Interview Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jacky's Interview Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jacky's Interview Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jane T's Interview Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jane T's Interview Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jane T's Interview Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Jane T's Interview Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Sue's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Sue's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Sue's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: David's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: David's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: David's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Joe's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Joe's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Joe's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Michael C's Interview Clip 1 of 2

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Before Stonewall: Michael C's Interview Clip 2 of 2

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Before Stonewall: John's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: John's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Michael's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Michael's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Michael's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 1 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 2 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 3 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 4 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 5 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Millie's Interview Clip 6 of 6

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Before Stonewall: Donald's Interview Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Donald's Interview Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Donald's Interview Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Donald's Interview Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Sapphire's Interview Clip 1 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Sapphire's Interview Clip 2 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Sapphire's Interview Clip 3 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Sapphire's Interview Clip 4 of 4

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Before Stonewall: Peggy's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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Before Stonewall: Patricia's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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Before Stonewall: Dave's Interview Clip 1 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Dave's Interview Clip 2 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Dave's Interview Clip 3 of 3

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Before Stonewall: Charlie's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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Before Stonewall: Gay's Interview Clip 1 of 1

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